Agenda and minutes

Joint Transportation Board - Tuesday 5 March 2019 7.00 pm

Venue: Room B12, Civic Centre, Home Gardens, Dartford, Kent, DA1 1DR

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Apologies for Absence.


Apologies for absence were received from Councillor Page and Mr Kite.


The Board noted the appointment of Councillor Maddison as a substitute for Councillor Page.


The Board also received apologies from Mr Boudville, the Principal Transport Planner. 


It was reported that after a number of years’ service during which he had provided valuable support to the Board, Mr Boudville was to leave the Authority.


The Board asked that their thanks and best wishes for the future be recorded for Mr Boudville.  


Declarations of Interest

To receive declarations of interest from Members including the terms(s) of the Grant of Dispensation (if any).


There were no declarations received.


To confirm the Minutes of the meeting of the Dartford Joint Transportation Board held on 4 December 2018 pdf icon PDF 95 KB




That the minutes of the meeting of the Joint Transportation Board held on 4 December 2018 be confirmed as a correct record.


Members Enquiry Items

Members have the opportunity to raise  the following: -


·         Questions in relation to capital and revenue funded works programmes

·         Suggestions for future traffic regulation orders or street management proposals

·         Questions on policies, plans and strategies related to highways, road traffic and public transport.

·         Suggestion of a future agenda item (subject to the Chairman’s approval)



Members raised the following issues:


Councillor Maddison

Councillor Maddison enquired about the future of the subway serving Bob Dunn Way following the fire which had recently damaged the facility.


Ms Sutton undertook to arrange an inspection of the subway by KCC Officers and to report back on the matter to Councillor Maddison and Board Members.-


Additionally Councillor Maddison asked if it were possible to organise traffic surveys in the Temple Hill area as speeding traffic had caused a number of minor accidents in Henderson Drive and Trevithick Drive, and local residents were concerned about this.


Ms Sutton responded that surveys had recently been undertaken in the area and had shown that no major issues existed.  However Mr Butler, the local KCC Councillor, informed the Board that a package of safety signage was being introduced to reduce speeding traffic in the area, funded from within his Combined Member Fund.


Urgent Items

The Chairman will announce his decision as to whether there are any urgent items and their position on the agenda.


It was reported that there were no urgent items for the Board to consider although the Chairman agreed that a verbal report from Mr Hymers, updating the Board on Fastrack be received, as the next item.




The Chairman introduced Mr Shane Hymers to the Board, and explained that he was the newly appointed Fastnet Network Development Manager at KCC, and would be making a verbal report to Members on issues relating to the scheme.  Mr Dan Bruce would be remaining responsible for the operational performance of Fastrack


Mr Hymers reported on the following matters:


CCTV Camera Trial, Ingress Park

The trial was now in progress but had not yet been completed as a result of problems securing power supplies to some cameras.  An interim report would be circulated to Members as soon as possible and a full report would be made to the June meeting.


Early indications were however that while misuse of the bus lane is being recorded this is not at a sufficiently high level to justify a permanent installation as vehicle drivers are becoming aware of the camera.  However the camera units are flexible and could be moved to locations where the misuse of the bus lanes is more prevalent.


Arising from this Councillor Lampkin asked about camera protection for the Darenth Road busway and Mr Hymers undertook to consider this for a future report.


Fastrack Route B

It was reported that tenders have been invited to operate Route B until 2022 and responses are expected toward the end of the month.  The contract will be awarded in early April.


The short length of the contract period means that both Routes A and B can be offered for tender as a whole in 2022 as the current commitment from Prologis will end then.


Councillor Lampkin enquired about the impact that this would have on residents of the Bridge as they currently receive free travel on Fastrack, and it was recognised by Mr Hymers that this was a real issue – residents had been issued with travel passes and these would no longer be valid when Prologis withdraws.


Through Ticketing / Mobility of Service

Finally Mr Hymers reported that funding had been obtained from the Ebbsfleet Development Corporation to develop a computer AP which will allow users to accurately calculate the easiest, cheapest, and most efficient way to complete journeys in Kent using a number of modes of transport.  It is understood that a number of the current transport providers, including cycle hire companies, have expressed an interest in joining the service but that others are being canvassed.


Councillor Lampkin commented that his experience of cycle hire companies in London was very poor and he did not want similar problems to come to Dartford.


Councillor Mrs Ozog asked if the scheme would provide “real time” information, and this was confirmed as a key element by Mr Hymers.


Arising from the report Councillor Kelly asked the following questions:


What was the outcome of the trial of electric buses carried out in 2018, and what are the ambitions for development in that area?


Mr Hymers confirmed that a report had been prepared on the trial and that it would be placed on the Agenda for the  ...  view the full minutes text for item 50.



Matters Arising pdf icon PDF 46 KB

This report advises Members on the progress of matters raised at previous meetings of the Board.

Additional documents:


The Board received and noted an update on issues outstanding from previous meetings.


References from other Committees (if any)


The Chairman reported that there were no items referred to the Board for consideration.


Proposed Amendment of Waiting Restrictions Princes Road Dartford pdf icon PDF 77 KB

Additional documents:


The Board received a report seeking approval for the implementation of amendments to current waiting restrictions on a section of Princes Road, Dartford to facilitate the introduction of a cycle path.


It was noted that during public consultation a number of local traders had objected to the introduction of this Order but that its introduction was being is pursued on the grounds of safety for pedestrians and cyclists using the proposed shared pedestrian/cycle path.




To Approve the progression of the Traffic Regulation Order to install double yellow lines and waiting restriction with a proposed exemption for parking in the area shown highlighted in Appendix A to the report.



Traffic Issues within Swanscombe and Greenhithe

Mr Harman has asked if the following could be placed on the Agenda for consideration for traffic management schemes.


(a)  Eynsford Road/Knockhall Road - corner protection required.

(b)  London Road/Knockhall Road - corner protection required.

(c)  Port Avenue/Mounts Road - corner protection required.

(d)  Stoneley Crescent/Ingress Park Avenue - stop sign required.

(e)  Ingress Park development - extension of 20 mph zone required.

(f)  Ingress Park Avenue - repeater 20 mph speed signage required.


The Board’s instructions are requested.



The Board considered a request received from Mr Harman for the introduction of corner protection measures at a number of sites in the Ingress Park area.

Additionally Members’ attention was drawn to a briefing note, circulated by KCC Highways which set out the current policy adopted for processing such matters.


It was noted that, unfortunately, neither Mr Harman nor the report author - Emma Green, were present at the meeting.  Accordingly the Board was asked to submit any questions directly to the author – as Denise Sutton (the KCC District Manager who was present) was not in a position to answer them.


The Board noted that there did not appear to be funding available to progress these schemes and therefore suggested that Mr Harman should submit the schemes for action under the Combined Member Fund.



Road Works in the Borough of Dartford pdf icon PDF 119 KB

Members will be advised of the roadworks which were currently being undertaken or expected within the Borough.


The Board considered a report from KCC highways which updated Members on roadworks which were underway or proposed to take place in Dartford.


Some concern was expressed at the proposed arrangements for traffic to access the new LiDL store in Instone Road, Dartford.  It appeared that the new layout brought traffic into conflict with buses which stop at the store to collect / drop off passengers.


Ms Sutton agreed to review the layout and the position of the bus stop.


KCC - Environment, and Transport Cabinet Committee pdf icon PDF 146 KB

For Members information the following has been attached for Members information: -


§    Environment, and Transport Cabinet Committee – Minutes 17 January 2019


NB: If a Member wishes to discuss any of these items at the meeting, please advise the Member Services Section (01322) 343251 prior to the meeting.


The Board received and noted the Minutes of the Kent County Council, Environment and Transport Cabinet Committee, held on 17 January 2019.


Vote Of Thanks


The Chairman reminded Members that; this was the last Board meeting of the current Municipal Year; a number of Dartford Councillor Members would be seeking re - election at the forthcoming Borough elections and she would be stepping down as Chairman as the responsibility for that role reverted to Dartford Borough Council.


The Chairman therefore proposed a vote of thanks to all Members for their hard work on the Board in the past year and wished Borough Councillors good luck at the forthcoming election.


The Board thanked the Chairman for her good wishes and asked that their thanks be recorded in the Minutes of the Meeting.




That the thanks of the Chairman and Members be thus recorded.