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Agenda and draft minutes

Joint Transportation Board
Tuesday 5 December 2017 7.00 pm

Venue: Room B12, Civic Centre, Home Gardens, Dartford, Kent, DA1 1DR

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Apologies for Absence.


Apologies for absence were received from Mr Kite, Councillors Hayes, Page, and Wells


The Board noted the appointment of Councillor M Maddison as a substitute for Councillor Page


Declarations of Interest

To receive declarations of interest from Members including the terms(s) of the Grant of Dispensation (if any).


There were no declarations of interest received.


To confirm the Minutes of the meeting of the Dartford Joint Transportation Board held on 5 September 2017. pdf icon PDF 81 KB




That the Minutes of the Joint Transportation Board held on 5 September 2017 be confirmed as a correct record of that meeting.


Urgent Items

The Chairman will announce his decision as to whether there are any urgent items and their position on the agenda.


It was reported that there were no urgent items for the Board to consider.



Matters Arising pdf icon PDF 46 KB

This report advises Members on the progress of matters arising at previous meetings of the Board.

Additional documents:


The Board received a report on issues that were outstanding from previous meetings and received further information on the following matters:


Parking Control Issues: Common Lane Wilmington

It was noted that the requested Highways works had been completed and that measures to be undertaken by the Schools had now been finished.  It was agreed that this matter now be removed from the report but should return if issues emerge when planning consents for extensions to the schools are considered.


Access Gate between Fastrack and Darenth Road

It was noted that this item could be deleted as the gate had been secured with a padlock and chain.


Toucan Crossing:Bob Dunn Way

It was reported that following a first consultation exercise, it was decided that the crossing should be relocated.  The amended scheme was then the subject of a second consultation exercise which was due to close today.  The results of this exercise will be considered by KCC Officers in the near future.


Parking Issues: Ingress Park

It was noted that the planned parking scheme was due to go live on either the 11/12/2017 or 18/12/2017.


References from other Committees (if any)


The Chairman confirmed that here were no matters referred to the Board.


Fastrack and Proposed Alterations to Local Bus Services

KCC Officers may wish to report to the Board on developments on the Service.


The Chairman welcomed Mr Philip Lightowler the Head of Public Transport – Transport Integration the KCC Officer responsible for overseeing the operation of the Fastrack service on Route B (with Prologis being responsible for Route A.)


Councillor Kelly also announced that as this Item (Item 7 on the Agenda) and the issue relating to local bus services, (Item 9 on the Agenda) were closely interlinked, he proposed that they should be dealt with simultaneously.


Mr Lightowler began by identifying to the Board monitoring measures which were being taken to address certain operational failures in service provision by the Fastrack operator, Arriva. 


He explained that Inspectors had monitored the route performance and concluded that traffic congestion issues were not the cause of delays.


Accordingly, the operator had been advised that there were a number of issues that needed to be addressed.  Arising from this, undertakings were received from the operator that shortcomings would be addressed and it was noted that that further monitoring would be undertaken to monitor the situation.


With regard to the extension of Fastrack into Ingress Park, Mr Lightowler reported that the extension was still not operational as responses were awaited from Crest Nicholson regarding the installation of bus shelters on the new extension.


By way of a look into the future Mr Lightowler reported that he had recently attended a demonstration of a totally electric bus which he understood could operate on the Fastrack routes, and he believed that it could be trialled on the route in the near future.


To conclude his report Mr Lightowler informed the Board that the existing contract for Fastrack service B would expire in 2019 and that all operators will be able to tender for the new contract to run the Service.


Following on from his report Mr Lightowler addressed the Board on an application which has been received by KCC, from Transport for London to allow their route 96 vehicles to use a section of the Fastrack dedicated roadway.


The application sought permission for the route 96 to use the dedicated roadway on Princes Road, and on and adjoining Watling Street, accessing Darent Valley Hospital, and running on to Bluewater.


Transport for London contend that this re - routing will afford a better service to Dartford residents and allow the route to operate free of the traffic congestion prevalent in the area.  It would encourage hospital visitors and patients to use public transport thus reducing traffic congestion and parking issues in nearby residential areas and at the Hospital itself.


Mr Lightowler informed Members that a charge would be levied on TfL based on the number vehicles using the roadway and that this would be set aside to the reserve budget for Fastrack operation.  Any use of the Fastrack route would be controlled by a contract, the details of which had not been settled.


Following consideration by senior members of staff within KCC’s GET Directorate, the Cabinet Member for Planning, Highways, Transport and Waste and the leaders of Dartford and  ...  view the full minutes text for item 89.


St Clements Interchange

Mr Stiff of KCC Highways will update Members on the progress of this scheme verbally.


The Board received a report from Mr Stiff the KCC Capital Programme Manager, on the progress achieved in the St Clements Way / London Road junction improvement scheme.


It was noted that since the last update in June 2017 a construction contract had been awarded to Messrs Jackson Civil Engineering Group and that a programme of works had been confirmed.


It was reported that an on - site construction yard was planned, and that a dedicated public liaison officer was to be available for the duration of the work.

At the conclusion of the contract the site yard would be disposed of, and there were no plans for its ongoing use as a car park.


Details were also provided of the public consultation / exhibition which had been undertaken relating to the proposals.


The Board agreed to note the content of the Report.


Alterations to Local Bus Services


Please see item 89 which now relates to both matters.


Local Winter Service Plan pdf icon PDF 54 KB

A report on Joint arrangements made for action in the event of severe winter weather.


Ms Sutton of KCC introduced a report which outlined the arrangements in place between KCC and Dartford Borough Council to provide a winter service in the event of an operational snow alert in the Borough.


It was noted that the actual Service Plan was available for Members information on the KCC Website, and Ms Sutton agreed to circulate the Dartford section to all Board Members.


Members Enquiry Items

Members have the opportunity to raise  the following: -


·         Questions in relation to capital and revenue funded works programmes

·         Suggestions for future traffic regulation orders or street management proposals

·         Questions on policies, plans and strategies related to highways, road traffic and public transport.

·         Suggestion of a future agenda item (subject to the Chairman’s approval)



The following Issues were raised by Members:


Mr P Harman: KCC Policy on the installation and funding of Yellow Lines


Mr Harman requested clarification on the current policy being applied by KCC for the funding of yellow lines, and Ms Sutton explained that the following principles are applied by KCC:


·         KCC is responsible for crash / Safety lining, but that such must be supported by accident data.


·         The relevant District or Borough Councils were responsible for all other lining works


·         The Combined Member Fund was only available to support County responsibilities.


However, Ms Sutton confirmed that there remained confusion / uncertainty over what constituted “Safety” works an exemplar of which was the proposed work at Maiden Lane.  At this location, inconsiderate parking was causing real safety problems, but KCC were currently unwilling to fund lining work for what they deemed to be a parking scheme.


To clarify the whole issue Ms Sutton had arranged to consult with senior KCC Officers to obtain guidance on this matter.


Councillor Maddison: Traffic Issues


Councillor Mark Maddison asked for information regarding the following issues:


An activation date for the Mill Pond traffic lights?  It was reported that these were to be repositioned and would be activated early in 2018.


A petition for highways safety works related to Powder Mill Lane Nursery


It was reported that these works were to be undertaken as part of a S106 agreement and were included in the schedule of programmed work for the 2018.


Enforcement of HGV Access, Powder Mill Lane

It was noted that the use of Powder Mill Lane by heavy vehicles was a by – product of congestion on the M25 / Dartford crossing, and enforcement was very difficult.


Cycle Network: Development in Dartford

The Board was informed that work on this was underway with a consultant and that a report on this was to presented to Members in 2018.



Councillor Lees: Traffic Congestion caused by Dartford Crossing


Councillor Lees enquired if there were further works to be undertaken to alleviate congestion arising from Dartford Crossing.  He explained that the majority of the Parish Councils were still concerned at congestion levels, and that it was widely believed that funding for further work was available.


It was noted that since the recent tranche of road works in Essex on the M25 had been completed, the incidence of major congestion had subsided.


However, in recent weeks a number of serious road accidents had caused the crossing to be partially closed and thus serious traffic jams had occurred.


It was the case that further improvement funding was available and that the Board would receive reports when work is to be undertaken.


Road Works in the Borough of Dartford pdf icon PDF 116 KB

A report that advises Members of roadworks which were currently being undertaken or expected within the Borough.


The Board received a report which set out details of Highways works in progress or approved for commencement in 2017 / 2018.


KCC - Environment and Transport Cabinet Committee. pdf icon PDF 138 KB

For Members information the following has been attached for Members information: -


§    Environment, and Transport Cabinet Committee – Minutes 21 September 2017



NB: If a Member wishes to discuss any of these items at the meeting, please advise the Member Services Section (01322) 343251 prior to the meeting.


The Board noted the Minutes of the meeting of the KCC Environment and Transport Cabinet Committee held on 21 September 2017.