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Agenda and minutes

Joint Transportation Board
Tuesday 1 March 2016 7.00 pm

Venue: Room B12, Civic Centre, Home Gardens, Dartford, Kent, DA1 1DR

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Note No. Item


Apologies for Absence.


Apologies for absence were received from Councillors Hayes, Kite, and Ms Page,


The Chairman took the opportunity to welcome the Parish Councils’ representative, Councillor Richard Lees to his first meeting of the Board.


Ms Valentine informed Members that the new District Manager – Mr Watson – would not be taking up his post for some while as he was not yet available to join the Dartford area.


 In view of this an interim liaison officer had been seconded to provide Members with a link to KCC Highways.  Ms Valentine introduced Ms Denise Harper who was undertaking this role.


Declarations of Interest

To receive declarations of interest from Members including the terms(s) of the Grant of Dispensation (if any).


There were no declarations of interest received.


To confirm the Minutes of the meeting of the Dartford Joint Transportation Board held on 1 December 2015 pdf icon PDF 81 KB




That the Minutes of the meeting of the Dartford Joint Transportation Board held on 1 December 2016 be confirmed as a correct record of that meeting, subject to the substitution of the following as paragraph three of clause 38 of the minutes.


“Mr Boudville confirmed that such road markings were no longer available through either Dartford or KCC although this situation was in the process of being reviewed”.


Arising from the Minutes Ms Valentine informed the Board that works to cut back the foliage of plants in the planter near the Masonic Hall car park entrance had been undertaken by KCC.


Urgent Items

The Chairman will announce his decision as to whether there are any urgent items and their position on the agenda.


It was reported that there were no urgent items for the Board to discuss but the Chairman announced that


a)            A special meeting of the Board had been arranged to take place on 12 April 2016 to discuss traffic congestion; and,


b)            There were two elections to be held in Dartford on 5 May and 23 June 2016, and confirmation had been received from KCC Highways that they had received the appended list of sites of Polling Stations in Dartford and noted the request that road works were to be avoided at these at election times. 


Traffic Congestion In Dartford and the surrounding areas

In view of the size and complexity of this issue the Chairman has decided to hold a special Board meeting on the evening of 12 April 2016 to consider:


·         The events of the afternoon / evening of 9 February 2016,

·         Traffic congestion in the Dartford area, generally, and

·         Measures being introduced to reduce the levels and frequency of such congestion


The Chairman reported that a special Joint Transportation Board meeting had been called to take place on 12 April 2016 to discuss Traffic Congestion in Dartford.  It was noted that the meeting would discuss


·         The events of the afternoon / evening of 8 February 2016

·         Traffic congestion Issues in Dartford generally

·         Measures being introduced to reduce the levels and frequency of such problems.


It was reported that all major agencies concerned with this would be invited to attend.



Matters Arising pdf icon PDF 46 KB

This report advises Members on the progress of matters arising at previous meetings of the Board.

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The Board received an update on a number of outstanding issues from previous meetings and was informed that further information on some issues was set out in the Agenda for the meeting.


Arising from the update the following information was provided


Sensible Street Lighting   Ms Valentine informed the Board that the new Kent Street Lighting Contract had been awarded to Messrs Bouygues, and that they would commence work in March 2016.  The Contract includes the installation of LED street lighting across the County and the maintenance of lighting.  It was estimated that the new LED lights installation in residential areas will take some 14 months commencing in July 2016.  It was also noted that a new Central Management System will allow lighting to be adjusted from a central point and thus be responsive to customer needs and requests.

Ms Valentine also reported that Dartford was second on the list for the installation of LED lighting.


Bob Dunn Way.  It was reported that Thames Water were still being unresponsive to requests relating to drainage in the area and thus KCC have decided to commission their own survey to allow the drainage works to commence.


Parking Issues Ingress Park.  Mr Harmon reported that KCC investigations have revealed that private parking tickets issued on public highways are invalid, but that KCC are still seeking a legal way forward on this matter.


 It was also noted that speed restrictions are being introduced in the area and yellow lines are to be introduced in safety critical areas.


Misuse of Busways by Motorists  Mr Boudville reported that a trial of CCTV enforcement for this has been deferred pending feedback from KCC on the trial undertaken in Tunbridge Wells.  The report on this had not yet been provided by KCC.


The Chairman undertook to contact the relevant officers at KCC highways and ascertain why the promised report was being delayed.


Parking Control Issues: Common Lane Wilmington.  It was noted that the unprotected section of Common Lane was to be included in the next tranche of Traffic Restriction Orders presented to the board.  This would allow the installation to be undertaken during the school summer holiday period.


Councillor Mrs Allen reported that meetings with the schools concerned had taken place over this matter and that she was also due to meet the bus provider, Arriva, with a view to amending their timetables/waiting times in Common Lane to alleviate congestion.


As a side issue Councillor Maddison asked if there were any measures that could be undertaken to relieve parking problems in High Road Wilmington, as saturation point had now been reached in some places.


Mr Boudville commented that the introduction of parking control in the area would be most unpopular and that currently speed levels in the area were not excessive and thus the justification of the introduction of restrictions on safety grounds may be unwarranted.


Maiden Lane Dartford Parking / Traffic Issues  Mr Ozog reported that he has been contacted by residents from the Bexley part of Maiden  ...  view the full minutes text for item 45.


References from other Committees (if any)


It was reported that there were no matters which had been referred to the Board for consideration. 


Chairman's Update

A verbal update will be provided by the Chairman, on the following items: -


·         Enforcement of Yellow Box Junction: Princes Interchange


·         Pedestrian Safety Fastrack Routes


·         Darenth Valley River Walk: Lighting


Councillor Kelly informed the Board that he had no report to make on the three outstanding issues set out on the Agenda, but intended to pursue the issues relating to Darenth River Walk, and Pedestrian safety on the Fastrack routes, and report to the next appropriate meeting.


With regard to the issue surrounding enforcement of yellow box junctions Councillor Kelly reported that this matter would be discussed at the special meeting to be held on 12 April 2016, although it was noted that currently legislation to enforce yellow box junctions by CCTV does not exist outside the Greater London area.


In addition to these matters Councillor Kelly informed the Board that he had received a recent press release from Highways England announcing a number of traffic flow improvement measures which were to be introduced surrounding the Dartford Crossing and the Blue Star Roundabout and intended that these should also be considered at the Special Meeting..



Kent County Council Officers may wish to update Members on any issues that have arisen from the last Board meeting.


A short report was tabled by KCC on the Fastrack bus rapid transit system which operates in Dartford and Gravesham.


The report updated Members on


·         The structure, purpose and composition of the Fastrack Management Board


·         Service Reliability


·         Infrastructure Upgrades


·         Introduction of new vehicles


Arising from the update Members enquired when the new link road at Ingress Park was to come into use, and if details of the membership and schedule of meetings of the management board could be provided.


In respect of the new road link it was noted that this has not yet been adopted as public highway and it would not be used until that process had been completed.


Additionally Ms Valentine undertook to provide details of the composition and schedule of meetings of the Management Board.


Southeastern Rail

A representative from Southeastern Rail will be present to answer Member questions on Rail issues affecting Dartford.  Representation from Network Rail has also been invited to the meeting.


Despite indications to the contrary, representatives from Southeastern Rail and Network Rail did not attend the Board meeting.  The Clerk to the meeting undertook to contact the representatives and ascertain why this was, and to reiterate their invitations to the September Board meeting.


Home Gardens Cyclepath - Update pdf icon PDF 57 KB

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The Board was reminded that discussion on the introduction of a shared cycle path / footway at Home Gardens, Dartford had commenced in 2013, but the Board had encountered problems approving the proposals originally presented.


The Board now considered a new scheme which sought to provide a new connection for cyclists along the eastern side of A226 Home Gardens between Station Approach, the riverside cycle path and town centre.

It was noted that the scheme had been the subject of extensive consultation and that amendments to the proposals had been included arising from all valid concerns which were raised.


The Board having considered the new proposals agreed that it was largely happy with the proposals subject to


·         Slight concerns that the narrowing of the entrance to Crown House could cause problems for large vehicles entering or leaving the site; and,


·         Confirmation that any trees removed be replanted / replaced, on the site if possible and that the whole of the frontage to Crown House be considered for replanting once the works were complete.


Mr Watson who introduced the report agreed to report the concerns to the Engineer responsible for the scheme.


Bob Dunn Way - Proposed Cycle Route Scheme pdf icon PDF 888 KB

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The Board considered a report presenting a proposed cycle route scheme and associated improvements along Bob Dunn Way, Dartford.


It was reported that Kent County Council (KCC) was intending to install a new cycle route along Bob Dunn Way to provide improved off road  facilities in the area for commuters and leisure cyclists.


The proposed route improvements would run from the Thames Road roundabout to the Marsh Street roundabout and will include additional route links near Joyce Green Lane.


It was noted that the principal aims of the cycle route were to connect existing cycle links, to encourage sustainable forms of travel in the area, to reduce traffic congestion and to improve the health of local residents and commuters.


 It was envisaged that providing a safe off road cycle facility would encourage residents to commute or travel for leisure by cycling.


Although the principle of the scheme was welcomed, the Board raised the following issues


·         Although this was an “off road” path, a number of recent accidents have resulted in vehicles leaving the carriageway thus negating any protection that the path would give


·         Would it be possible to reduce traffic speeds on Bob Dunn Way


·         How much of the new path is physically separated from the carriageway by barriers.


Mr Watson who introduced the report undertook to report these concerns to the Engineer concerned.


The Board agreed to note the report.




Members Enquiry Items

Members have the opportunity to raise  the following: -


·         Questions in relation to capital and revenue funded works programmes

·         Suggestions for future traffic regulation orders or street management proposals

·         Questions on policies, plans and strategies related to highways, road traffic and public transport.

·         Suggestion of a future agenda item (subject to the Chairman’s approval)



Board Members raised the following issues:


Mrs Cole enquired about


a)    the lighting in the underpass near the Leighs Academy.  Many of the light units needed replacement and she was unable to contact Highways England who she believed was responsible.


It was suggested that Mrs Cole log the faults on the “Fix My Street” website which was n monitored by all the major highway authorities.


b)    Street related issues at St Mary’s Road.  This road has a number of outstanding issues that require addressing, and Ms Valentine suggested that a site visit be arranged with a local highway engineer so that these could be identified and assessed.


Mr Maddison enquired at the progress of a vehicle cross over he had requested in Carrington Road, which had originally been rejected.


Ms Valentine reported that this was being reviewed and that she would speak to Mr Maddison direct on this matter.


Mr Maddison and Councillor Mrs Ozog both raised the matter of kerb stone replacement outside 57 Mt Pleasant Road and asked when a scheme could be drawn up to remedy the issue.


Councillor Mrs Ozog enquired about the installation of “dog bone” markings at the Foresters Public House, to dissuade people from parking across the entrance to the pub car park. 


Mr Boudville confirmed that he was developing an ordering and billing process for this service and that once this was finalised this work could be considered.


Councillor Lampkin informed the Board that there were currently parking issues in the area of the Leigh Technical college, caused by the congregation of the Winners’ Chapel.  There are problems with indiscriminate parking and congestion caused by visitors and the large number of worshippers  attending the Chapel.


It was noted that the Chapel have recently been in consultation with local residents and Councillors – that a number of coaches bringing worshippers to the chapel are now parking off site and worshippers who do drive have undertaken to be considerate of local residents needs when parking.


Additionally it was reported that the Cchapel has submitted a planning application to convert some land on its site for car parking which will further alleviate the problem.


The Board agreed to monitor the area with a view to traffic regulation if problems do not improve.



Road Works in the Borough of Dartford pdf icon PDF 142 KB

Members will be advised of the roadworks which were currently being undertaken or expected within the Borough.


The Board received and noted a report which set out details of highways works in progress or approved for commencement in 2015/6 in the Dartford area.


KCC - Environment and Transport Cabinet Committee pdf icon PDF 164 KB

For Members information the following has been attached for Members information: -


§    Environment and Transport Cabinet Committee Minutes - 4 December 2015 and 13 January 2016



NB: If a Member wishes to discuss any of these items at the meeting, please advise the Member Services Section (01322) 343251 prior to the meeting.

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The Board received and noted the Minutes of the meetings of the Kent County Council Environment and Transport Cabinet Committee held on 4 December 2015 and 13 January 2016.